Hi all,
I need some help setting up my just received konnected system on a Bosch Easy Series. This is the set-up I'm trying to have:
- I do not immediately find where to put the 12v AUX wires since I do not have this indication on my system, where should I put it?
- There are two outputs for each zone on my panel, where should I plug them?
- Where to connect the relay?
- Can I avoid using the external adapter?
Thanks for all the help!
Hi all,
Just to mention that I managed to install the system, entirely, mostly using this great video:
https://help.konnected.io/support/solutions/articles/32000028384-wiring-zones-in-parallel-with-a-traditional-alarm-panel
I'll answer my own questions in case anyone struggles with this :-)
1. 12v AUX wires need to be connected on the white +/- 12VDC connector on the left
2. The left output on each zone is the "high" and should be used
3. I connected the relay to a free Zone. I had to use 2 transistors and the NC (see the wiring above in figure 1.1, the right set-up in number 8)
4. Yes, use the same white 12VDC connector as in 1
FYI:
- I also could not use zone 1 (as mentioned in the video) so had to move the sensor connected to zone 1 to another zone
Everything is actually very nicely explained in the video, I should've watched that one first before posting this topic.
Good luck!
This is becoming a lonely topic. I got the above working too!
Connect a wire between the programmable output 1 NO and a zone on the Konnected Interface. Program the output to trigger when "System Enabled". Tune the potentiometer, et voila.
I also used "Motion" as zone type BTW, does the trick.
Kr,
Hi Wouter,
Thanks for the detailed updates, you give me some confidence I will be able to convert an existing Bosch easy series as well!
For clarity that alarm system has an option for alarm armed away and a separate option for alarm armed stay.
In the away mode all sensors trigger burglar alarms (including the bedrooms), while in stay mode the bedroom sensors are neglected. Basically you use the away mode when leaving the house and the stay mode when you go to sleep.
In your comments you refer to monitoring the armed state, how does this work when there are two states?
As a second question, can you trigger both states from your phone? How does this work?
Kind regards and thanks again for documenting your install, great work!
Hi,
Apologies for the late reply :-). There is good and bad news.
The good news:
Using 2 zones on konnected to monitor both "System On" and "System On (Unoccupied)", you can easily derive which mode your alarm is on:
- When "System On" is true, but "System On (Unoccupied)" is false, you have your alarm armed in the "At home" mode
- When "System On (Unoccupied)" is true, you have your alarm armed in the "Away" mode
The bad news:
I did not find a way to arm the alarm in the "At home" mode, only in the "Away" mode. Given I'm using the set-up which allows me to also still use the keypads of the alarm system, I don't see this as a real problem, since when I'm out of the house, I do want to enable the "Away" mode, and I can use the keypads at home to arm in the "At home" mode.
FYI, I'm using a Home Assistant on RPi, with which I could do some nice things:
- Notify me when I forgot to enable the alarm when my wife and I are out of the house
- Notify me when there is motion detected when my wife and I are not at home (independent of the alarm is armed or not)
Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with!
Kind regards
Hi Wouter, Belgian customs office finally released my package, so I went straight into installation mode.
Long story short, with your testimony I got almost all up and running.
- Monitoring existing sensors --> check (I also had to use the left output ports)
- Arming/disarming the alarm in away mode --> thanks for the tip on the dual transistors on the relay, works like a charm in combination with the Bosch "On/Off switch". FYI I tried fiddling around with double tapping the impulse switch in order to be able to arm in Home mode but could indeed not get that working.
Where I am still stuck though is in the monitoring of the armed stated. On my system I only have the output 1 free. As per your suggestion I connected the NO port from output 1 to zone 5 on my second interface panel (bottom interface panel in the picture). The jumper on the left of the Bosch output ports is connecting the bottom two pins as per your pictures. I tuned the potentiometer to be just on in disarmed mode. I then programmed the Bosch to trigger output 1 when system is enabled. I hear a clicking sound, but never manage to get the Konnected system to register anything.
Do you have any suggestions? Anything you see wrong in the picture? Is there a need for resistors in the outputs? Is there a loop configuration to be made in the Bosch system on top of the triggers?
So close from a perfect solution, thanks for having a look...
Thanks for the update Wouter.
By fiddling around, I found two methods to get it working. For my case I only have 1 free output available and I therefore chose to only monitor "Armed away" which translate to mode 15 in the Bosch system.
1) put the jumper on the bottom two pins and put a resistor between NO and ground. Wire from NO to a zone on the interface panel and turn the potentiometer all the way to the left. This then reports the status correctly. --> On occasion I did see strange short term trigger behavior, so I am guessing this is not the right way to connect it.
2) Basically your method: no resistors, jumper on bottom two pins, wire from NO on the Bosch to a zone on the interface panel. In Konnected then reverse the state reporting. Having an "Armed Away" status now correctly reports as contact sensor open.
Once again thanks for your help, I am happy with the system as it is today. In an ideal scenario I would have more free programmable outputs to also monitor "Armed at home", but I am happy I could keep the original system in place (including land lines, support contract, certification etc.) and in parallel move to a modern HomeKit integration at acceptable cost.
I can now arm and disarm in away mode and get confirmation the action actually had effect and triggered the change status of the alarm system.